Urban Conversations is a weekly talk show hosted by Dennis Martinez and Michelle Bassuk focusing on activism and politics in the San Fernando Valley and Los Angeles area. On this episode, Michelle sits down with two Angelenos who share a passion for public transit and acting to realize its potential. Jason Ackerman, a non-driver and a cochair of traffic and transportation on the Encino Neighborhood Council, and Arkur Patel, a CSUN student working toward his masters focused on LA public transportation, discuss LA’s stymied bus routes and how to get public transportation back to being truly public.